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The main differences really are the cue point, which you set when you put the CD in. You pick the point you want to mix from (probably the first beat of the tune), and then you hit the cue button - voila! Then, you can go anywhere you like through the tune and spend as much time as you like beatmatching, and then hit the cue button, and then it'll take you back to your chosen cue point - thats one advantage over vinyl because with vinyl, you have to "rewind" or lift the needle back to the start. Its all fairly easy to be honest.
The downside is that you can't "read" the grooves like you can on vinyl, so you've got to know your tunes inside out.
The problem you may encounter at first is adjusting to the sensitivity of the pitch slider and the jog wheel. A tune that may need a heavy handed shove on vinyl may needle a little touch of the jog wheel on CD. The pitch faders are more sensitive on CD decks too - usually because they have a pitch of +10, compared to +8 on Technics decks, so a smaller adjustment is needed.
Its just a case of hitting the play button on the first beat of the bar, and then using the jog wheel to nudge forward, or drag back, any fine tuning that needs to be done.
I'm always a tad early, so a little nudge forward works every time for me
When correcting a mix using vinyl you're touching something real that has an exact effect relative to your touch.
When doing the same using a CDJ you're touching a device that electronically transmits information once again, based on your touch. However, the ultimate effect is indirect, and the platter you're touching is connected only to the music via a complicated journey of 0's and 1's through wires. This will take a certain amount of getting used to, and I don't believe it will ever instill me with the same confidence I would have if I were adjusting a vinyl during a transition.
Also, I believe, with the CDJ200, you have no visual representation of the tune you're playing, as you can on vinyl where you can "see" the breakdowns and the moments its about to kick in, in the actual grooves of the record. The 1000 does, as a digital graph type thing, but I'm not sure about any others off hand.
And worst of all, tracklisting suddenly gets complicated...
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Also, I believe, with the CDJ200, you have no visual representation of the tune you're playing, as you can on vinyl where you can "see" the breakdowns and the moments its about to kick in, in the actual grooves of the record. The 1000 does, as a digital graph type thing, but I'm not sure about any others off hand.
And worst of all, tracklisting suddenly gets complicated...
You trying to put me off Laz?
Bit of a double-edged sword this one. I can see the benefit in forcing yourself to learn your tracks inside out to counteract this problem. However chance are I'm going to be buying a lot more tracks than before.
This is going to mean a lot more listening to tunes over and over.
I guess this will be a new learning experience. Doing without the vinyl grooves will be like trying to learn how to pitch bend without touching the platter. Totally alien the first few times you do it but practice and experience making it easier.
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Right...I've got the CD Deck and had a play around with it yesterday.
Pretty impressed so far, bit like a kid in a toy shop. Love having the effects to muck around with and the sound is superb.
Couple of things I'm struggling with though... Mixing CD to Vinyl is fine obviously as it's no different from vinyl to vinyl. Only noticed that my levels have to be adjusted greatly when to match the vinyl sound with that of the CD.
Vinyl to CD is the problem. I don't really get the cuing with the CDJ too well. With vinyl you find your beat and you can rock over it until your ready to push off. Finding the beat on the CD is proving harder as it appears to breakdown the sound of the beats making it hard to find.
What should I be using as I've been trying it with both the search function and the platter. Any tips?
Like wise beatmatching is proving harder. Do I (and this I'm guessing is what djx2 meant) simply use the tempo (set to +/-6) slider and just match like that...so almost like pitch riding?
Should I be using the jog wheel/platter for anything other than using the effects?
I'm sure everything will come together with practice but any support and tips would be great.
I feel like such a noob again!
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Ben, i'm not too sure about your CD deck, but certainly on the CDJ-100, that breaks down the beat (so to speak), so that its split into little fragments. What I do, is stop the track on the first beat, and then use the jog wheel to find the loudest, most solid, part of that beat. For example, it'll be quieter at the start of the beat, then get stronger, and then get quieter towards the end of the beat. The loudest part tends to be the "middle" and strongest part of the first beat. I'm not sure if thats how it works on your deck though as i've no experience with it.
As for using the jog wheel and pitch riding - well, thats all personal preference. I've never ever been a pitch rider. I tend to touch the record/jog wheel instead. However, I know some people that can't work like that and can only ride the pitch. I think its a case of doing whats right for you. There's no right or wrong way to DJ - its all down to doing your own thing.
I remember on the old DJ Source tutorials where it used to say the only time you should touch the record is when you get it out of the sleeve. Why? Who says? Is there a written rule that says that? Its crap.
Darren Roostan is one of the smoothest mixers i've heard outside of the "pro" circuit, and he's not a pitch rider - he uses the same method as me. One of my other old DJ mates can only mix by riding the pitch though - so there is no written rule. Its all personal preference.
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